People think I’m kidding when I tell them I don’t call the hay grinder anymore since I bought my NDEco Vertical Feed Mixer. I really like the ration. I can have a longer cut on my hay and the calves seem to do better on it than the powder I used to feed them that came out of the hay grinder. I am not sure why anybody would keep using a horizontal mixer and grinding all of their hay after trying an NDEco.